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• Developers can not suddenly become DevOps.
• You need OpsDev viewpoint as much as DevOps.
• Management and budget are different.
• To write up here... what kind of talent attributes we need and key challenges we've seen.
• How to grow full stack DevOps and OpsDev staff.

Cloud Smoke Test

Have the cloud "smoke test" up front before the project starts. These are also great questions for executive management to ask to really understand the value of moving to Cloud,

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